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Trump, Regulus and the United Nations

Trump, Regulus and the United Nations
I have said multiple times that at the very least, Trump is the little horn from the book of Daniel and with some events coming up in the future, I think it's appropriate to gather some of these spread out ideas across all of my posts into one.

I'm not going to delve deep into this specific part because you can read about this more here.

Daniel 7
8 “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully.

So the little horn uproots 3 of the others and its a person who speaks boastfully. I don't think Trump has uprooted anyone yet but maybe that's for later.

Keeping with the "As above, so below" theme, what does "above" have to say about this little horn. Well, a lot actually.

https://astrolibrary.org/donald-trump-astrology/
Strengths in Donald Trump’s Birth Chart
The first thing that stands out from Donald Trump’s birth chart is that he has the royal fixed star, Regulus, conjunct to his Ascendant. Regulus is one of the four Royal Stars of Persia, and the only one known as “The Royal Star,” the Star of Kings, and the “Heart of the Lion” (or Lion’s Heart. Cor Leonis in Italian).
With Regulus on the Ascendant, Donald Trump can’t help but to have a “majestic temperament.”
Donald Trump is extremely lucky to have been born with this honor. Having any of the Royal Fixed Stars on the Ascendant promises power, success, honor, charisma, wealth, and special talents as long as one mandatory condition is met (explained below).
Regulus, in particular, also promises military honors and victory over enemies. This influence is doubled because Donald Trump has Mars near the Ascendant. Mars near Regulus promises honor, fame, strong character, public prominence, and high military command.
Not enough good things can be said about having Regulus conjunct the Ascendant. It makes one courageous, frank, and noble. It allows Donald to see the big picture of things.
those who have this star prominent are esteemed, commanding, independent, outspoken, great-souled and honor-loving, often wealthy and born leaders of men.”
However, one big condition must be met for Donald Trump to receive all the benefits of Regulus. Donald must avoid revenge. That’s what Regulus requires.
Regulus promises great success if revenge can be avoided. If Donald Trump engages in revenge, Regulus promises a falling from grace.
"If, out of anger or hurt, the person takes revenge, then as promised with all Royal Stars, there is a falling from grace.”
Falling from the grace of Regulus can bring violence, trouble, sickness, and scandal. Regulus can take away all that has been gained. As long as revenge is avoided, the sky is the limit for Donald Trump.

Assuming this is true, does anyone here think Trump won't do the very thing he isn't supposed to do. It's almost like he was fated to do it.

Now what does this have to do with the little horn? Everything.

https://www.space.com/25084-regulus-...ation-leo.html
From the remotest times it has been known as the "royal star" par excellence; one of the four royal stars regarded by the ancient Persian monarchy which were supposed long ago to rule over the four quarters of the heavens. In Babylon they knew it as Sharru, the King, in India as Maghā, the Mighty, in Persia as Miyan, the Center and in Latin Rex, from which Copernicus constructed the name we use today: Regulus, The Little King.
The three other seasonal "royal stars" are Antares (summer), Fomalhaut (autumn) and Aldebaran (winter). But the royal star of spring, Regulus, has always been in a certain way, their chief. For about 5,000 years it has been believed, traditionally, to control the affairs of heaven, and the astrologers have seized upon this idea by making it the natal star of kings, and those destined to kingly achievements and rule.

Doc's first dog's name is Copernicus from Back to the Future. For the very large significance of the BttF Trilogy to all of this, go here.

The Little King. The Little Baron Trump. The Little Horn from the Book of Daniel. 1 of 4 who supplants the other 3.

Horns denote poweauthority in the Bible.
https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/baron
A baron is a nobleman — a member of the aristocracy. Barons are also important, powerful businessmen with huge influence over their industries. In Britain, a baron is called “Lord,” but in the States, we call them “rich.”
Barons are members of the aristocracy — wealthy people born into power and influence. How high a baron ranks depends on the country, but the title always carries respect. Similarly, a business leader who is rich, powerful, and influential is a baron. The term is used in phrases such as oil baron and baron of industry. You can also call that kind of baron a big businessman, magnate, mogul, top executive, or tycoon.

Trump is a Real Estate baron. He is also part Scottish which hold Barons as titles.

The little Baron Trump (if you haven't heard of this before, go here). You also have his kid with that name.

Babylonians called it Sharru ("the King"), and it marked the 15th ecliptic constellation.

So since he's the 45th president, 15 X 3 = 45. 15 being the number that the Freemasonic "magic square" adds up to no matter which direction you add up the numbers.

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So he's the little horn AND the King of Babylon. Mystery Babylon in my opinion (read more about this here), is America/New York and that's Donnie's home city as well as the city where the HQ of the UN is. Which just so happens to be right next to one his buildings which is also even closer to UN related buildings with the exact same Egyptian black gold color scheme that sticks out like a sore thumb, one complete with a gold pyramid for a top. (Read about the signifance of the Trump Tower buildings and the significance of their locations here)

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100 UN Plaza (left) and Trump World Tower (right)
100 UN Plaza
That shape isn't blatantly obvious or anything.
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Trump World Tower and the United Nations HQ are less than a half mile away from each other. The name "Trump World" and "Tower" (of Babel) seems to be implying something as well.

Consider this. Trump just gave a speech there at the UNHQ where he was literally laughed at by the leaders of the world. The last time a world leader laughed at him during a speech, he took his job....

Then there is this.

In 2014, Regulus was eclipsed by an asteroid for 14 seconds right over New York.

Asteroid to black out bright star during once in a lifetime event
An asteroid will pass directly in front of Regulus, one of the brightest stars in our night sky, next Wednesday — briefly blacking out the star in what astronomers are calling a “once in a lifetime” event. Better yet, New York City falls directly within the viewing path which is literally paper-thin on the earths scale. The event is so small, and so brief, that it will only be visible over a sliver of area. And this area happens to encompass millions of people in New York City, Northeast NJ and Long Island.

March Stargazing: 'Little King' Star Regulus Reigns in Space Lion's Heart
On Thursday, March 20 2014, Regulus will participate in a rare celestial event when an asteroid passes directly in front of the star, as seen from Earth. The asteroid in question is 163 Erigone. Asteroid 163 Erigone is about 45 miles (72 km) wide, but its "shadow" slanting to Earth's surface will be 67 miles (108 km) wide.Erigone's shadow will move on a southeast-to-northwest trajectory and will extend from New York City as well as western and central Long Island to Oswego in New York State, and then continues northwest, the length of Ontario to the Hudson Bay shore of Manitoba. Those who are within the shadow path and watching at just the right moment with just their eyes will see an amazing sight: Regulus will seem to abruptly disappear as if a switch had been thrown, blotted out by the tiny invisible asteroid.Regulus will remain invisible for up to 14 seconds (for those situated along the center of the path); an incredible, albeit very brief occurrence.

This "once in a lifetime event" eclipsing right over New York. Home of Trump and the UNHQ, in 2014 for 14 seconds.

The predictive Trump TV show from 1958 episode of Trackdown entitled "End of the World" claimed the end would be on November 14th. That's when the leonids were suppose to show up and batter the earth with meteors in the show. You can watch this 22 minute episode here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonids
The Leonids are a prolific meteor shower associated with the comet Tempel–Tuttle. The Leonids get their name from the location of their radiant in the constellation Leo: the meteors appear to radiate from that point in the sky. Their proper Greek name should be Leontids , but the word was initially constructed as a Greek/Latin hybrid and it has been used since. They peak in the month of November.
The Leonids are famous because their meteor showers, or storms, can be among the most spectacular. Because of the storm of 1833 and the recent developments in scientific thought of the time (see for example the identification of Halley's Comet) the Leonids have had a major effect on the development of the scientific study of meteors, which had previously been thought to be atmospheric phenomena. Though it has been suggested the meteor shower-storm has been noted in ancient times it was the meteor storm of 1833 that broke into people's modern day awareness – it was of truly superlative strength. One estimate is over one hundred thousand meteors an hour, but another, done as the storm abated, estimated in excess of 240,000 meteors during the nine hours of the storm over the entire region of North America east of the Rocky Mountains.
It was marked by several nations of Native Americans: the Cheyenne established a peace treaty and the Lakota calendar was reset. Abolitionists including Harriet Tubman and Frederick Douglass as well as slave-owners took note and others. The New York Evening Post carried a series of articles on the event including reports from Canada to Jamaica, it made news in several states beyond New York and though it appeared in North America was talked about in Europe. The journalism of the event tended to rise above the partisan debates of the time and reviewed facts as they could be sought out. Abraham Lincoln commented on it years later. Near Independence, Missouri, in Clay County, a refugee Mormon community watched the meteor shower on the banks of the Missouri River after having been driven from their homes by local settlers. The founder and first leader of Mormonism, Joseph Smith, afterwards noted in his journal that this event was a literal fulfillment of the word of God and a sure sign that the coming of Christ was close at hand.

They are located in the constellation Leo. So is Regulus. Regulus is known as the "heart of the lion".

According to the chart on the Wiki, they peak on 11/17 for the next several years. 17 again.

Seems they had a big impact on the people in 1833. This almost seems to relate to what happened in Star Trek with Vulcan and the psychic cloud they go back in time to get to stop the war from breaking out. (read about this here)

More about the star Regulus
In Chinese it is known as 轩辕十四, the Fourteenth Star of Xuanyuan, the Yellow Emperor.
It was one of the fifteen Behenian stars known to medieval astrologers, associated with granite.
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The Cleopatra's Needle in Paris is made of yellow granite and this looks like a stargate. So do all of these Ferris wheels being built around the world. Then you have Yellowstone, which is a volcano. The yellow brick road from the Wizard of Oz that leads to Emerald City where you realize OZ is not great and powerful at all, that he's just a man behind the curtain and you had everything you already needed inside you. Also consider that Marty in the Back to the Future movies gets triggered when he is called chicken and it makes him insecure and do dumb shit. In the 3rd movie, the word chicken changes to "yella" to fit with the old west vernacular. Then at the end, a guy he knows named "Needles" challenges him to a race and calls him a chicken. Having learned his lesson in the movie about not letting things like that get to him, Marty averts a total disaster that derailed his future self's life in the 2nd movie. So Marty didn't follow the Yellow Brick Road and averted disaster.

In relation to the Wizard of Oz story, both the Hopi Indians and the Bible speak of an "End Times" event that seem to look at the same thing just in opposite ways. The Bible says the Antichrist will set himself up in the 3rd temple and declare himself to be God. The Hopi say a god will take his mask off and be revealed to just be a man. So what are we to make of this? It sounds like completely opposite concepts. What if we're going to find out that WE are god, all of us, together. The 3rd temple doesn't have to be literally a temple. The temple refers to the human body in Christianity. When Jesus was mad and drove all the merchants out of the Temple for selling things and told them to get out of his Father's house, its a metaphor for driving out ones own inner merchants. This "god" we think of when we think of God, maybe its just a man behind a curtain.

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We have the "Trump Prophecy" movie coming out on 10/02 and 10/04. 10/03 is the date "Trump" will text all of our phones to "test" out this new system for FEMA alerts. 10:04 is when lightning struck the Clock Tower in Back to the Future and caused the clock to stop working. Could this be a metaphor for time itself? I have said since I heard about this movie coming out that that movie will be the major catalyst to Trump calling himself God. Once that movie reaches the consciousness of millions of delusional "Christian" Trump supporters, there's no stopping that train. His supporters will have it locked in their heads that Trump's will = God's will and Trump will start to believe that too. Who knows how long this will take to go into full effect but the church thinks they are under threat of extinction and they feel backed into a corner due to all of the unnecessary fear mongering they have been subjected to for decades. I don't know what we are in store for exactly. But I do know that all signs point to November for some major event and I mean major for all of humanity. This could range from an assassination attempt on Trump that either succeeds or fails, a terrorist attack by "Isis". Some sort of major act or declaration of war by an ally on another country, contact with alien life or even the appearance of what will look like the Messiah.

One more thing to note. I came across this site where a man did a ridiculous amount of math to determine when the Messiah would come back in 2013 (I could not follow his method whatsoever but where he landed is pretty interesting either way) and the year he landed on was 2018 being the start of the 7 year tribulation period. 2018 also lines up with the Economist magazine from 1988 with a Phoenix on the cover speaking of a one world currency and strongly hinting at it being a Bitcoin like digital currency. The magazine said this would happen in 2018, 30 years from the year the magazine came out. You can read about determining the date here and the Economist prediction here, towards the bottom of that post.

2018 = 2 + 1 + 8 = 11

This person described King Solomon building the temple but not dedicating it to God until after 11 months and then having 14 days of celebration. The 11th month of the Jewish calendar is a 30 day month of winter ("Winter is coming").

The movie V for Vendetta was suppose to come out on 11/4/2005, which was the day before the 400th anniversary of Guy Fawkes day. For some reason, the movie got delayed to an official release date of 3/17/2005 (17 again).

Ronald Reagan, who has a ridiculous amount of similarities and mirror differences with Trump, was elected president on 11/4/1980 and an attempt on his life was made on 3/30/1981.
3/17
3/30
30 - 17 = 13, there's "Mother" again.
Regulus was eclipsed by 163 Erigone on 3/20
20 + 13 = 33. 33 is the number of Christ consciousness
The man who did all the math speaking about the date of the Messiah's return, put a lot of emphasis on 1980 years (1980 just so happens to be the year Reagan was elected president) since the death of Jesus in 33AD. 1980 + 33 = 2013 and we come to 13 again. 13 & 17 like the locusts associated with the god without a mother who live and die and just to become foods for the birds (You can read about this here). Which Revelation 19:17-21 actually speaks about too, a feast for the birds dining on the bodies of the dead after the battle of Armageddon. So maybe those ARE the locusts the Bible was speaking about that come out of the pit.

The Bible repeatedly says that no one will know the day and the hour Jesus is suppose to come back and the "Little Baron Trump" book says that no one knows for certain the date of his death. Combine that with the tombstone that was placed in Central Park on Easter Sunday 2016 with only a birth date and no death date, and maybe these 2 things are correlated.

BIOGRAPHICAL NOTICE OF WILHELM HEINRICH SEBASTIAN VON TROOMP, COMMONLY CALLED LITTLE BARON TRUMP
As doubting Thomases seem to take particular pleasure in popping up on all occasions, Jack-in-the-Box-like, it may be well to head them off in this particular instance by proving that Baron Trump was a real baron, and not a mere baron of the mind. The family was originally French Huguenot — De la Trompe — which, upon the revocation of the Edict of Nantes in 1685, took refuge in Holland, where its head assumed the name of Van der Troomp, just as many other of the French Protestants rendered their names into Dutch. Some years later, upon the invitation of the Elector of Brandenburg, Niklas Van der Troomp became a subject of that prince, and purchased a large estate in the province of Pomerania, again changing his name, this time to Von Troomp.
The “Little Baron,” so called from his diminutive stature, was born some time in the latter part of the seventeenth century. He was the last of his race in the direct line, although cousins of his are to-day well-known Pomeranian gentry. He began his travels at an incredibly early age, and filled his castle with such strange objects picked up here and there in the far away corners of the world, that the simple-minded peasantry came to look upon him as half bigwig and half magician —hence the growth of the many myths and fanciful stories concerning this indefatigable "globe-trotter". The date of his death cannot be fixed with any certainty ; but this much may be said :
Among the portraits of Pomeranian notables hanging in the Rathhausat Stettin, there is one picturing a man of low stature, and with a head much too large for his body. He is dressed in some outlandish costume, and holds in his left hand a grotesque image in ivory, most elaborately carved. The broad face is full of intelligence, and the large gray eyes are lighted up with a good natured but quizzical look that invariably attracts attention. The man's right hand rests upon the back of a dog sitting on a table and looking straight out with an air of dignity that shows that he knew he was sitting for his portrait.
If a visitor asks the guide who this man is, he always gets for answer:
“ Oh, that’s the Little Baron!”
But little Baron who, that’s the question ? Why may it not be the famous Wilhelm Heinrich Sebastian von Troomp, commonly called “ Little Baron Trump,” and his wonderful dog Bulger?

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So in conclusion, I am not sure if this 11/14 (5) date is actually November 14th or (5th) or if this relates to the Jewish calendar and it correlates to Passover (which relates to Easter and the death and resurrection of Christ and is on 4/20 next year and is 3 years after the tombstone showed up in Central Park). Maybe Trump gets assassinated and then Jesus comes back in the form of humanity raising its collective consciousness level. Trump representing the pure ego of man, the animalistic side of us (The Beast). Crucifying him representing the crucifixion of humanities ego which is what allows us to ascend to higher consciousness levels further away from the lower animal self. Unfortunately this is what I have feared this entire Trump thing was about in the first place, collectively ridding humanity of people like Trump, his supporters as well. Trump and Q are the Pied Pipers leading them to their deaths. They will do whatever they are told and they are eventually going to be lead off of a cliff to die like the locusts so the birds can have a feast. I wish I could do more to make them see this but every time I have tried to talk to them, I may have just made things worse. They have truly been sent the powerful delusion spoken about in 2 Thessalonians 2.

For the continuation of this idea and the very big significance of the 11/14 date, go here.
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  16. Chinese consumers spend billions in 'Singles Day' shopping binge
  17. 'Singles Day' China shopping festival smashes record with $25 billion haul
  18. China’s Technology Ambitions Could Upset the Global #Trade Order: “If Made in China 2025 achieves its goals, the U.S. and other countries would likely become just commodity exporters to China — selling oil, gas, beef and soybeans.” - Waterman, president of the China Center at US Chamber of Commerce
In Military news
  1. Can China Beat the #U.S. Without a Fight? U.S. military officials warn that China's goal is to become dominant by slowly making changes to the international order. "China is on a path to win without a fight," "We are ready" for NK. But the peer-level fight with China "is the real challenge."
  2. Beijing Quietly Building Naval Ports, Aircraft Bases in Disputed South China Sea: according to recent satellite images. New Chinese facilities discovered in Paracel such as Tree Island. In Spratly, China has been building runways, leading to accusations they intend to turn the islands into airbases
  3. China testing new 6×6 amphibious armoured vehicles
  4. The Sneaky Way China Could Win a Naval War Against America
  5. America Is No Match for China's New Space Drones
  6. China Reveals Images of New Hypersonic Strike Aircraft
  7. China's aircraft carriers to get new propulsion system: could equip conventionally powered warship with the world's most advanced jet launch system along with newer weapons. PLA's Naval branch has run "hundreds of tests" using the EMALS with China's J-15 fighter jets Yin Zhuo told CCTV
  8. Air Force general says China is advancing in space five times as quickly as the US
  9. Chinese naval escort ship arrives at #Djibouti for replenishment
  10. China's New Surveillance Technology May Expose U.S. Warships: To build the first-rate surveillance system, Rainbow UAV is described as an “excellent choice.” New UAVs will work with new satellites, long-range aircraft, undersea sensors, as well as Skywave radars that can see out thousands of miles
Other Notables
  1. Chinese #Heroine Mu Guiying: distinguished figure in the Generals of the Yang Family legends. With her command of the imperial army, Mu eased the rivalry between Song and its neighboring Liao, calmed rebellion in the southern area with her husband and acknowledged the allegiance to the Western Xia
  2. Tianjin Binhai Library / MVRDV + Tianjin Urban Planning and Design Institute
  3. Chinese Audiences Move Away From Hollywood Pictures. Mainland moviegoers are starting to embrace foreign films from countries other than the U.S.
  4. Setback Education: The Parenting Fad Harming China’s Kids
  5. Hunt for Ming dynasty admiral Zheng He’s lost treasure ship heats up. Study off coast of Sri Lanka, where massive vessel that was part of Chinese adventurer’s fleet sank 600 years ago, has delivered ‘positive results’
  6. The Pearl River: Mouth to Source (Episode 1: Zhuhai)
  7. Twin sisters Sun Yumeng and Sun Yutong buzzing again on social media for landing jobs at CCTV
  8. Xinhua Backgrounder: Deadly U.S. mass shootings in recent years (very informative, hope enlightening info is distributed domestically)
  9. Globaltimes: Mass shootings worsen US human rights. If the mass shootings in the US cannot be addressed in the long term, and the government takes no effective action, the UN Human Rights Council needs to denounce Washington's inaction at some point, exerting external pressure on the country. (LOL)
  10. China's Early Building Conservationist Whose Words Went Unheeded
  11. The rise and rise of China
  12. America’s decline is China’s opportunity
  13. Baby Pandas Playing in Snow at Chinese Kindergarten School
  14. 100 couples have their weddings in the hot balloons in 2017 World Fly-in Expo of the World Air Sports Federation in Wuhan, Hubei province, on Monday. It sets up a new Guiness world record for the number of the participated couples exchanging vows in the air.
  15. Transforming Pingyao's historic courtyard homes
  16. Jack Ma: I understand America more than some of the American themselves
  17. Richard Blumenthal concerned Trump may be colluding with China
  18. Nike China Tells Zhou Qi: Don't Come Back
  19. [Traditional Instrument Music]
  20. American girl becomes cultural 'chief' for a week at Guizhou resort: 23-year-old Jong May, a Chinese born American, was selected as a cultural ambassador at the Wanda tourist resort in Danzhai county, in Guizhou
  21. Western fascination with Hutongs is colonial poverty porn
  22. Taiwanese Guy Goes To Russia for Vacation Tour through Mainland, uses PRC's "Single-use passport" (Russia doesn't recognize ROC passport), posts about it on FB, ROC government cancels all his ROC ID's (LMAO over this draconian sh*t)
  23. The Dalai Lama Says Donald Trump's MAGA Catchphrase 'Isn't Relevant' (lol)
  24. Tillerson’s Trip & the new Great Game (FB Ali)
  25. China Spreads Propaganda to U.S. on Facebook, a Platform it Bans at Home
  26. Trump is the first foreign leader to dine in the Forbidden City since the founding of the PRC
  27. CHINESE STAMPS - (CHINESE ANTHEM)
  28. Comedy film "Never Say Die" wins box office success after "Wolf Warriors II": brought in an impressive $326m worldwide to date. #1 Highest Grossing Comedy in a Single Market. Also earned its entry into "Top Ten All Time International Box Office for Comedy Movies."
  29. What Happens If China Makes First Contact? As America has turned away from searching for extraterrestrial intelligence, China has built the world’s largest radio dish for precisely that purpose.
  30. 首度與台媒見面 劉結一:"鬥爭"台獨勢力 20171108
  31. China at War – The Story of Teng Chan
  32. Chinese President Xi holds welcome ceremony for Trump
  33. Kung Fu Superstar Jet Li: How I’ll Bring Tai Chi to the Olympics
  34. Chinese investment gives wheelpower to small U.S. town 中企在海外:小镇故事
  35. Politics, China, and Taiwan’s Youth Identity
  36. China’s Cultural Revivalists: More Than Just Quirky Throwbacks. For many fugu aficionados, traditional culture is something that merges with modern life instead of resisting it. Since 2014, the government has released a slew of edicts designed to build up social support behind traditional culture
  37. TIL: China poured more cement between 2011 and 2013 than the US used in the entire 20th century
  38. China eases foreign limits in finance as Trump leaves
  39. CCTV Headquarters
  40. The plight and hope of Chinese animation
  41. 2,000-year-old luxury #baths discovered in NE China: "The shape, structure and size of the baths were very similar to the baths in the imperial palace of Xianyang, capital during the Qin Dynasty," Liu said. "These baths could be the earliest baths discovered in China."
  42. GAI - 爱如潮水 (蒙面唱將猜猜猜第二季)
  43. 骄傲的少年
  44. Trump Asia tour: The president is winning. Too bad it's Chinese President Xi Jinping. America is smashing its geopolitical might on the anvil of its own foolishness. China and Russia are gleefully picking up the pieces (lol)
  45. Ji Shaoting founded Future Affairs Administration as a loose group of #scifi aficionados in 2013. To become the idea generator for Chinese science fiction is the goal for Ji and her company. They have organized tours for writers to watch rocket launches, visit laboratories, and talk with scientists
  46. Is China the next global leader? - Inside Story
  47. 《武动乾坤》 "Martial Universe" drama trailer
  48. PLA Air Force promotional video gone viral in China
  49. South Korea shifts towards China
  50. UK remembers Chinese Labor Corps first time in history
  51. Soros, NED, USAID Ruining Myanmar's Stability to Hinder China's Rise
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[Table] IAmA: I am Stephan Kinsella, a patent attorney and Austrian economics and anarchist libertarian writer who thinks patent and copyright should be abolished. AMA

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My wife is a musician and she is concerned about someone stealing her music at a concert and selling it to a movie maker. The "thief" would then be receiving royalties for music she created. Do you have any articles/research I could share with her to show her that a) royalties are a product of copyright and b) people stealing/copying her music would be a good thing for her? Any other suggested readings for her? Copying information is not stealing; your wife still has her music. What she really means is: the guy who makes a profit playing a versio nof her music, is "stealing" from her, the money he makes from customers. But that means that she has a property right in the money in the pockets of his customers. BUt she does not. This is just free market competition.
What about the cost that goes into the finished product? as a professional musician, without the (meagre) stream of income from royalties, merch, and performances, the level of possible exposure for my work and the amount of time I can focus on my art would plumet. Innovation becomes harder to come by when your means and efforts are limited by the costs of living, making profits off someone elses art (and more importantly the time they put into creating it) without their consent is no different than stealing a chair from a craftsman's warehouse in my eyes. Why do you believe that the intangibility of music makes the time put into it less valuable? You don't own value. value is what others think about your stuff. you have no proeprty in that. the law should not give you a property right in that. besides, if the state stopped taxing you, you would be 8 times richer immediately, an could afford to do your music.
I' m entirely in favor of reworking the whole copyright/patent system, with much more reasonable time limits for the protections, but abolish entirely? Why would people make anything? Why would a pharma company spend hundreds of millions of dollars produce some medication only to have some other company take the formula and just produce the same medication without the development costs? The purpose of law is not to make sure people make enough pre-ordained things. it is justice, to protect property rights. IP invades property rights. it's very simple. Your asking a question "why would people make things" is not an argument. A question is not an argument.
This seems like a very odd answer to my question. I don't think you've actually answered it. But you are asking your question as if makign a rhetorical poitn: "how would people be incentivized to do X?' implies that we all agree that the state ought to make laws to make sure we have x and that if my answer is insufficient, then my arguemnt against the law fails. So it is question-begging; I refuse to be trapped. I will not permit people to engage in equivocation.
How do we balance the need for individuals who invest great amounts of time in techniques and technologies that don't have the ability to go to a broad market with those who do? The best illustration would be someone like Edison who had the connections to get things to the world but didn't necessarily invent them. If we keep technologies secret until we figure out how to make money off of them - might we miss out on much? It seems like the patenting ability gives legal protection to put your ideas out there. And an NDA doesn't seem the same as worldwide patent protection. Of course, there is much potential benefit I see from so many who have put all of their plans and ideas out there (free music for one that leads toward concerts, etc). Seems like with the current system the little guy benefits at a certain point and then begins to lose out at a certain point to the big guys... What is your basic philosophy on how to get ideas to the marketplace? The purpose of law is to protect property rights, not to ensure entrepreneurs of every type can make a profit; that is their job. but for some ideas of what is possible, see Link to c4sif.org
Why "acquire" it from a previous owner? Why not just steal it then? Some people want to justify their actions, or come up with justifiable meta-rules. Others do not.
I am a regular Joe. After working in a car garage for 20 years I invent a new type of tool that allows my work to go about three times faster. I try to sell it to make some money on the side, only a couple of local garages due to my lack of budget and I get some good reception. In your world I can't apply for a patent for my new idea and try to sell the rights to someone for even more money. Three weeks later, a large auto manufacturer is making a tool that is almost identical to my tool, but there is nothing I can do to stop them due to the fact that there are no patents. Now what? Yes, if you try to sell a product and if it is popular, you have to expect competition. there is nothing wrong with this. you have to have high quality, rely o your first mover advantage, your band name or reputation, or keep innovating, if you want to keep making profit. Profit is unnatural, and is gradually reduced by competition. Everyone who is for patent is against free market competition. See Link to archive.mises.org They admit this. They say "Governments adopt intellectual property laws in the belief that a privileged, monopolistic domain operating on the margins of the free-market economy promotes long-term cultural and technological progress better than a regime of unbridled competition." -- What kind of libertarian or free market advocate is against unbridled competition??!! 'If a man scatters money in the street, he does not thereby formally relinquish title to it … but those who pick it up are thereafter considered the rightful owners…. Similarly a man who reproduces his writings by thousands and spreads them everywhere voluntarily abandons his right of privacy and those who read them … no more put themselves by the act under any obligation in regard to the author than those who pick up scattered money put themselves under obligations to the scatterer.'
Can voluntary user agreements create results similar to copyright/patents? If not, how? If so, are they consistent with you free market principals? No, they cannot. Contracts are just transfers of title to owned scarce resources, and they cannot, in any event, affect third parties. I deal wit this in the reserved rights section of Against Intellectual Property, at www.c4sif.org
I am a research scientist, planning on filing a patent application for a new type of plastic solar cell. I don't know yet for sure if it will work, but if it does work the way I think it does, it could be an enormous boon to humanity. However, if someone with more funding than me can simply steal my idea, where is my motivation to invent this thing? I suppose there is altruism and doing it for the good of mankind and all that. But altruism won't put food in my belly. What do you think of people in my position? No one can steal your idea. They can learn from you. But you still have your idea. So be precise. What you mean is: htey are stealing the money you could extort from people if you had the right to sue for patent infringement; you are claiming a property right in the money of third parties that you can force to buy from you if you can outlaw competition. But you don't have a natural claim to or property right in the money in these potential customers' pockets.
So you'd see a return to a world of commissioned works? I'd like to abolish patent and copyright and let hte market work. I can't predict or guarantee the consequences of liberty.
Stephan, two part question, your answer to the first affects the second, if someone buys computer software and 'accepts' the EULA that states they must not copy or distribute the software, have they then not entered into an agreement that puts them under the same obligations as IP laws? Contracts can never recreate IP b/c IP is "in rem"--good against the world--and contracts only affect the parties, not third parties, unlike real or in rem rights. Plus, such contracts are unlikely to be widely adopted for a variety of reasons: if hte penalties are small, they will not deter copying; if they are large, people will refuse to sign them, or only a marginalized ghetto subset of people will sign them. And as for fine print and EULA's -- see Link to archive.mises.org
If this were to happen, then obviously anyone could legally sell on pirated computer software at a fraction of the price the official developers would be charging (or give it away for free) without paying any royalties to the developers themselves without fear of any legal repercussions. In such an environment, would anyone really want to invest millions of dollars in developing software that we all need? People invst money in develping products to make a profit. easy. Are you saying there would be some profit, but not enough? what is enough?
Do you think the current gun ownership by 3D printing will lead to the first state intervention? Edit: Just realized why that didn't get the response I wanted, because I can't English good. Should be: Do you think the gun ownership by being tied to 3D printing will lead to the first state intervention of printers as some companies have even pulled printers because of this? The state will try to find a way to stop 3D printing on gun or Ip grounds, just like it is using IP, child porn, piracy, terrorism, etc. excuses to limit internet rights.
Can you explain the technological advancement gap between countries and regions with strong IP laws (US, EU, Japan) and countries that don't? How does this trend work in the mind of a person who wants to abolish patent law? Sure--we have stronger property rights in general. we have more prosperity because of property rights laws, and despite IP laws. Correlation is not causation. After all the US is warlike and imperialist, has has slavery, institutionalized racism and misogyny, the drug war, controls on immigration, tarriffs, but only a dunderhead would say these are the cause of our prosperity. We are prosperous despite these measures, despite the state, not beacuse of it. Without the state we would be immeasurably richer. as for backup for my "8 times richer" comments -- see l. neil smith Link to www.stephankinsella.com
I'll be the jerk. What about Georgism bothers you so extensively? I've only seen you point to Rothbard's refutation, which has had many responses itself. Who is going to enforce the tax? how much is it? why does society have a claim on land it never homesteaded? Why is land special--after all it's just another type of scarce resource. etc.
How will copyright reform trickle down to aid regular folks who can't afford much of anything these days? Do you see any kind of wealth distribution changes and if so, what? Movies, music, will be more plentiful, more diverse, and much cheaper.
I guess a situation could be that I am a pioneer in a vast expanse of unowned land. I find a nice clearing and build my house and a farm in it, and later, more people show up and homestead around me (or someone who really hates me shows up one night and doughnut holes me). If that is a real risk, move away or buy an exit route. but in reality this is rarely ap roblem. the real problem comes from the state, which is often suggested as a way to solve these non-problems.
How hotly are patent legislations and infringements pursued by big companies? How much money is pumped into these things by companies? My guess is $200 billion a year or even more is wasted as a dead cost in the US economy alone, b/c of patents. Link to blog.mises.org honestly I think it's impossible to figure out exactly, and I would not be surprised if it is a trillion a year.
Stephan- do you believe IP should be abolished cold turkey or phased out? ___ For those who would like an ebook of Kinsella's book, Against Intellectual Property is available for free at mises.org. It's also my understanding that the LvMI copyrighted this publication without his permission. Abolished immediately, cold turkey. IT is the 6th worst statist policy, and thre is not a single good thing about it. Link to c4sif.org
Intellectual property rights is a very broad topic. For example, even without the state a shopkeeper who brands his goods with a trademark will try to defend his trademark from use by others by letting others know of the misuse, ostracism, and possibly through courts (or even through violence!). That's a form of intellectual property. I believe a free society will have this type of intellectual property -- even in the lawless markets of Africa we see this form of intellectual property defended. In a stateless society I see the free market developing some kind of an intellectual property system based on the values of the people in that society. Would you be against such a system of intellectual property rights even though it doesn't involve coercion or the state, or do you think it's impossible for it to happen in a free market? I am totally against patent, copyright, and also tradmeark and trade secret. Trademark law should be replaced with fraud law only. Trade secret should just be a private contract. Easy.
I think the anti-IP crowd spends too much time claiming that IP is dumb because it's not scarce IP are the legal rights attempting to provide property protection in non-rivalrous resources. IP is not nonscarce; it's the resources that it tries to protect that are nonscarce. The problem is not that it's "dumb"; it's that legal rights to nonrivalrous things can never be justified, since that always necessarily implies invasion of property rights in scarce resources.
As a free market economist, do you completely reject the idea of 'stimulus spending'? Yes.
Do you reject all norms regarding intangibles? Of course not; it is immoral to insult your grandma gratuitously.
I am a huge fan. Will you come to our Decline to State show for a fun interview? Sure, just text me on fb or email me.
Is this the response you are talking about? Link to www.stephankinsella.com. That's one.
Givem your complete rejection of Rothbard's ideas regarding the feasibility of market based copyright, and its potential consistency with respect for property rights, do you think there would be a market mechanism for serving similar purposes as copyright? And what I'm more interested in; do you think that such a market mechanism would be the most economically efficient, if not as a general rule, then in some cases? Would you for instance reject it a priori, in all cases, as economically retarding? I think people might use trade secret, when necessary, or non-disclosure agreements. and other things like subscriptions, etc.Other than that, I thnk in the long run the whole closed model is done for.
No, I don't. Any contratual scheme would be limited to a small number of people and so it would collapse. I think people will just realize information is good share and that society depends on learning and increasing the store of human knowledge, and that emulation and copying are just a natural part of competition and the free market.
To what extent do you oppose IP? I am totally opposed to defamation law. I view it as a type of IP. It is based on the same conflicted idea that there is a property right in value.
Should slander or libel be punishable offenses? Slander and libel (defamation) are types of IP and should be abolished. so should patent, copyright, trademark. The former is discussed in Rothbard's Ethics of liberty, free online.
If I were to do an AMA claiming to be you, and then also claim (as you) to have committed disgusting crimes that end up being attributed to you even after it's discovered that I am an imposter, would that be a crime on my part? The AMA thing you mention has nothing to do with any of these things or with IP; at most it is a blend of fraud, contract breach, and plagiarism. None of which have to do with IP.
How can you be a patent attorney and advocate the abolition of patents? Isn't that position directly contrary to your ethical duty to zealously represent your client? EDIT: Do you disclose to your clients that you are in favor of abolishing patents? There is no contradiction any more than an oncologist who hates cancer or a lawyer defending people from incarceration for tax evasion or drug crimes who opposes such laws. I do not hide my views, but my clients do not care; they want competence only. Some of them like that i hate IP, esp. if they are being persecuted. For more: Link to www.stephankinsella.com and Link to c4sif.org and Link to c4sif.org and Link to c4sif.org and
Do you agree with this Mises.org ethics position that "the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children" and "the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die." Basically, should the law be forbidden from punishing a parent who allows their child to stave to death, based on the arguments from the linked article? No, i believe in positive obligations assumed by virtue of actions like siring a child -- see Link to www.mises.org
What are your opinions on the Rothbard vs David Friedman private law debate? I think that Rothbard is right fundamentally, but Friedman's arguments seem more likely to apply in the real world where people don't necessarily care/know about natural rights. I agree. Rothbard is better but Friedman is perhaps more persuasive to the typical person who is somewhat unprincipled, pragmatic, and utilitarian.
Given that you think the state should be abolished, yet believe in free market capitalism, who do you believe would protect everyone? Wouldn't corporations take on state like behavior? I don't grant you the right to your "yet" as i don't see an incompatibility; in fact I see that libertarianism and free markets imply anti-statism. the very purpose of being libertarian is because of opposition to aggression; but if you oppose aggression you have to oppose the state.
No, in a free market no agency could act like the state because it would be widely regarded as acting in a criminal manner; it would immediately lose customers and be viewed as a hostile actor by all the other, civilized, agencies.
Is it true that Keynesian climb trees while Austrians hide under rocks? Yes.
Will we see a more libertarian government in our lifetime? Not sure. maybe. but despite the state, not because of it; and not because of electoral politics or activism.
What does your employer (clients?) that pays you to help them with patent law think about your extra-curricular activities working to abolish patent law? They don't care; they just want competence and professionalism. I mean do you care what your airplane pilot or heart surgeon's religion is?
How do you personally come to terms with the fact that you're an anti-IP crusader who makes his living helping a company protect its IP? I only do defensive IP. I refuse to cooperate in helping aggressively assert IP. But companies need to have IP and patents, if only to defend themselves if they are sued. I have various posts on this at stephankinsella.com and c4sif.org.
Do you believe that the abolishment of patent and copyright would stifle free market innovation? No, I think we woud have far more innovation in a free market with no IP.
Hmm i often see IP as a big incentive for people to go and develop these great things, services and products. You think that IP is incompatible with this? Id love to see hear your take. I just see the need to protect one's own work as an incentive for putting the work. I think many authors, artist and other folks would be less likely to put so much work and time into their works if there was a possibility of straight out plagiarism, or others exploiting their work for their own gain. Things like pharmaceuticals that spend hundreds of millions would have little to no incentive in having the groundwork done, if anyone could just come and steal the work? It's not an incentive; or, rather, it's an incentive that comes with other disincentives. In any case, whether it is an incentive or not, it's not justified. the purpose of law is not to tweak incentives. and copying and competing with others is not "stealing" anything. You don't take anything from th person you are competing with. They still have their "work" as you call it.
I wish you could have posted this AMA before I submitted my thesis! I wrote about how (in Australia) our conception of copyright relies on an ideology of Romantic authorship which ignores not only the realities of textual production (art is never a solo endeavour, many people contribute to the end result) but also ignores the post modern realisation that originality as a concept is flawed. My question to you is how you feel about the movement towards Creative Commons liscencing and whether you feel this will become the new norm in copyright and perhaps even patent law? I don't see CC pervading patents that much, just like it does not work well for software; but someting like the defensive patent license has a greater chance, though it still faces hurdles. Link to c4sif.org
Cc is a second best. far better to not have copyright, or at least permit us to do CC0 or opt out. Link to c4sif.org But in the meantime I do suspect CC will spread among academics at least.
Late to the game here, but I'll give it a shot anyway. What are the biggest challenges you've found trying to earn a living while refusing (as much as possible) to use the power of the state to enforce IP on your content in a market filled with people using it? I'm an Ancap musician/music teacher, convinced by your position on IP about three years ago. I create music, instructional articles, and videos, and I'd like to just ignore the state's power to enforce my copyrights and earn my money other ways: teaching, performing, selling merchandise, etc. Am I on the right track? And yes, I think you should put cC-BY on all your work and make it available for free, or sell access to it if you want, and use it in other ways. see my posts at Link to c4sif.org about how authors and creators can make money absent IP, conversation with an author, etc.
Out of curiosity... why is everyone referring to Kinsella as "Dr. Kinsella"? I've NEVER heard an attorney refer to themselves as "doctor." Even if it was because he was a professor, that usually comes with the "professor' appellation. It's probably out of respect or deference, but though I have a JD whcih entitles me to the doctor title (Link to www.stephankinsella.com I do not ask for or insist on it. I will say that it's nice for europeans and students to be humble and respectful and to give me the compliment of assuming i must have a PhD, even though I don't. I'd rather people give me that naturally, than get a PhD that no one respects.
Do you know Ron Paul? I've met him but not sure if he knows who I am.
Hi, I'm a Computer Science major in my freshman year and currently am looking at intellectual property law as my main career interest. I read Against Intellectual Property on Mises.org and have been a huge fan of yours since. I guess my question for you is if you have any career advice about intellectual property law. Additionally, do you believe that the eradication of intellectual property is feasible (as in can we actually get there from here)? I have some crude advice here Link to www.stephankinsella.com but it is a big dated, and I am not sure what to tell people now. I tend to think that law is a difficult career to go into--you should not go into it unless you LOVE law and want to do it no matter what; or you are confident you can be top 3% of your class and get a top job, and don't think you'll hate it.
And I think IP is here for a while unfortunately.
What are your thoughts about bitcoin?. I am hopeful about it. In some ways it's the perfect or ideal money.
Whats your favorite type of ice cream? Pecan crunch.
I realize only now that I am waaay too late, but I love your work; I read the Mises blog (now Circle Bastiat) all the time, and I really enjoy getting into debates with my fellow lawyers who went into IP law. If I have one question for you it is this: have you heard of John Hospers? Sure, I've read Hospers. early LP guy. but I think by our modern radical standards--well he was kinda randian and pro-war etc., no?
I agree with your position. How do you convince people who don't. Preferable through a practical, rather than moral, lens. That's hard, but there are countless examples of abuse and obvious injustice. You can also put the burden of proof on the IP advocates. If they claim that it's necessary to have IP to have invention and innovation and artistic creation, point to examples that preceded modern IP and ask them how this was possible. And ask them where the stoppoing point is--some alleged libertarians actually support tax funded subsidies for innovation. where is the stoppoing point? Link to www.againstmonopoly.org
Keep up the good work. Feel free to frequent /Anarcho_Capitalism and /Libertarian whenever, they will no doubt enjoy discussing stuff with you. Danke.
Do you believe in private contracts between companies and individuals stating that they won't copy each others work as some sort of voluntary substitute for the patent system. Yes, but I think they are largely impracticable--hard to enforce, pointless, and can't affect third parties. IP needs to ensnare third parties.
Consider as a customer: some publisher offers a text book on amazon for $30. to buy it you hvae to sign an agreement saying you will pay the publihser $10M if he can prove you copied the book or showed it to a friend or used the ideas in it. Who would sign this? not many people. Most peopld would move on to the next seller.
OMG. We have the same first [email protected]#!! Sorry but I've never met anyone with the same first name as me. Hello, my brother from another mother.
When it comes to pharmaceuticals, how would you keep companies investing in research and development without patents. If i can remember an equation from my econ law class a few years ago, i believe the basic equation is profit x length of patent - cost to develop, or the YK value. See chapter 9 of Boldrin and Levine's Against Intellectual Monopoly, at www.c4sif.org/resources. they explain the flaws in this view. The main costs of pharma are not those protected by patents; it's marketing, etc. And the other costs are imposed by the goddamned state via the FDA, taxes, etc. If you want innovation then get the state out of the goddamned way. don't ask it for more interventions.
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